[Stephen McConnell]

I have installed MyEclipse 7.0 M2 on my Mac OS X and thought that Mattise was part of it. I cannot find anything related to Mattise in the MyEclipse installation.

Is Mattise Available for MyEclipse 7.0 M2 on Mac OS X?
If so, How do I install it and how do I get it to work?

Thank you very much.

Stephen McConnell

[Stephen McConnell]

AH HA!!!! I just looked at the feature list on MyEclipse and the Features I would use the most!!!

1) Mattise
2) Eclipse UML!!!!!

Are not available for me on the Mac under MyEclipse…. But I am paying a full subscription for MyEclipse…..
When will these features be available for the Mac OS X?
If not, I’ll have to start searching for another IDE.

[Stephen McConnell]

As I stated in my previous response, I went out and started searching for another IDE that contained

1) Mattise (on the Mac)
2) UML (on the Mac)
3) Development templates for particular types of projects.
4) AJAX, JUnit, and EJB (Hibernate) support.

I didn’t have to look too far. I found it in NetBeans.

I had not looked as NetBeans for years…. As a matter of fact since November of 2003 (when I joined the MyEclipse bandwagon).
At that time, NetBeans wasn’t as robust, was klunky and didn’t have the features I required. MyEclipse satisfied evey need I had at that time
on Linux and Windows and Still does. It’s time cycle for improvements and feature addition was excellent and the response to customer
needs was superior. The addition of Pulse for “Configuration Management” MyEclipse is an Excellent IDE….. IF YOU WORK ON WINDOZ and Linux.

However, I switched to Mac last December as have MANY Windows users dissatisfied with Vista. And while I still pay (and will update my
MyEclipse subscription when it comes due next month), I found that NetBeans satisfies every need I have so far ON THE MAC that I have. I realize that to use the UML and
visual GUI development features on the Mac one has to have OS 10.5 and at least
Java 1.5, but it is at least available (AND THEY HAVE ADDRESSED THE ISSUE.
I have not heard anything about this from MyEclipse since July!!!!)

I am wondering why NetBeans can have UML and Mattise (or visual GUI development) on the Mac for Free, while MyEclipse (which I pay for
and other customers on the Mac pay FULL PRICE FOR ALL THE FEATURES do not have that ability?

This is a major issue. As I get more familiar with NetBeans, I may wind up canceling my MyEclipse subscription. I am sorry for that.

[Loyal Water]

Stephen
I know Matisse support not available on Mac has been a pending issue but we have already taken the first steps to add it in the 7.0. Unfortunately there are still some kinks that have to be worked out at the platform level. I can understand the reason you are so annoyed but I don’t have an ETA for these tools unfortunately. Sorry about that.

[lscoughlin]

Matisse was originally a netbeans thing, spawned out of the murk of sun java studio creator.

It’s a joy that genuitec brought it to eclipse, as i still feel that eclipse is a better platform.

There’s a bug floating back and forth between eclipse, genuitec, and apple concerning window or frame creating or something in SWT that prevents matisee4eclipse and myeclipse UML from running.

It’s been several years now, and no one has stepped up to the plate for it, so our company dropped myeclipse — sort of a sub optimal situation — we use netbeans for UI development, Posioden for UML and modeling, and eclipse for the grunt work — it’s all made a bit easier as all of these have solid support for maven, but it’s less then ideal.

I’m hoping that sometime in the myeclipse 7/8 series after eclipse 3.5 with swt-cocoa this might be able to be addressed finally.

who knows though.

[David Orriss Jr]

Actually it’s the older Carbon-based code that’s causing the problem in SWT. That codebase HAS to be updated by the time Snow Leopard comes out.

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