[Saugata Guha]

I get the following messages when I try to install MyEclipse 7.0M2 with
Eclipse 3.4.1 64 bit on a RHEL 5.1 64 bit.
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Thanks
Saugata

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[Riyad Kalla]

Saugata,

Actually we just releases MyEclipse 7.0, if you head over to our downloads section you can grab the Linux installer or the archived update site and you should be all set. The Linux installer will be the easier choice.

[Sieg du Preez]

Riyad,

The Linux installer is 32-bit only. Doesn’t work on my 64-bit Ubuntu. I’ve also tried installing Eclipse 3.4.1 (64-bit) and updating MyEclipse 7.0 GA, but ran into the same dependency issues reported for M2.

Neither does it work with Pulse and according to the Pulse team the problem should be resolved by the MyEclipse team.

If you have a workable solution (not only suggestions), please provide a detailed “how to” link on the download page.

Thanks,
— Sieg du Preez

[Chris Mattmiller]

You will have to downgrade to 32-bit Linux. 64-bit Linux users are not worth their time. 🙁

https://www.genuitec.com/forums/topic/where-is-the-64bit-myeclipse-7-0-for-linux/

[Sieg du Preez]

We would rather consider our options (regretfully) before downgrading to 32-bit.
Eclipse installs and runs perfectly on 64-bit. I’m expecting MyEclipse to do the same.

[Riyad Kalla]

cmattmiller,

That’s not the correct assumption at all. Development is expensive and a constant juggling act. We just haven’t juggling “64-bit native binaries” into play yet.

k278596, give the archived update site (download item #4 on the download page) a try for a self-managed install.

[Chris Mattmiller]

Actually it is the correct assumption. Here is a quote from you from a the link I have above:

A very small subset of our users are on 64-bit Linux — it’s an issue we are aware of, and want to get fixed, but when you lay out the feature budget in front of exec team and we see less than 1% of our users on 64-bit Linux AND combined with that our 32-bit builds of MyEclipse seem to mostly work fine on 64-bit, it’s *really* hard to get them to OK the R&D budget for taht instead of say adding a Profiler to MyEclipse or Groovy support or something like that.

So as it may not be you personally that thinks that 64bit users are not worth the time, your exec team does think that.

[Riyad Kalla]

cmattmiller — I suppose the semantics are correct, it’s just worded in such a negative way as if to imply we don’t give a flip. If our 32-bit version of MyEclipse did not work on 64-bit installs, it would be a much higher priority, but with an existing solution available, it just falls down the tree of priorities a bit more that’s all.

I just don’t want the wrong implications being made, that’s all. So to clarify, because 32-bit works on Linux right now, and our 64-bit Linux user base is such a small portion of our users, at the moment a 64-bit binary build of MyEclipse for Linux is a low priority for us.

[Saugata Guha]

Some of the modules I could install but not others.
I tried to install each plug-in module at a time to my 64 bit Eclipse 3.4.1 on RHEL 5.1 64.

Did not work:

Matisse4MyEclipse version 7.0M2
MyEclipse Enterprise Workbench version 7.0M2
Uncategorized

Worked:

ICEFaces Ajax Tooling for MyEclipse version 7.0M2
MyEclipse Reports Version 7.0M2

One problem I saw was MyEclipse dependency checker was confused because it could not decide which jar file to use, because there were multiple matches. This is bad, but not as bad as not finding the jar file or getting a wrong version of the jar file.
The dependency checker could be intelligent enough to do the matching, or at least allow the user to select one. If it does not work with users selection it should mark those choices as invalid and run with the other valid choices. Most of the errors are duplicate matches.

Cannot find a solution where both Match
[requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.eclipse.jst/[1.0.100.v200805140017,1.0.100.v200805140017]] and Match
[requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.eclipse.jst/[1.0.100.zmyeclipse69200200809,1.0.100.zmyeclipse69200200809]] 
can be satisfied.

Thanks
Saugata

[Riyad Kalla]

Saugata,

This is actually the platform’s p2 dependency resolver at work here, and a specific example of why the MyEclipse 7.0 profile doesn’t work through Pulse either — p2 in this case is trying to honor the dependency of the platform (which is 64-bit) and dying. You’ll have to use Eclipse 3.4.1 32-bit on Linux and add MyEclipse to that from the archived update site.

Or just use the Linux installer, that installs all the 32-bit counter parts for you.

[dlramsey]

@support-rkalla wrote:

cmattmiller — I suppose the semantics are correct, it’s just worded in such a negative way as if to imply we don’t give a flip. If our 32-bit version of MyEclipse did not work on 64-bit installs, it would be a much higher priority, but with an existing solution available, it just falls down the tree of priorities a bit more that’s all.

I just don’t want the wrong implications being made, that’s all. So to clarify, because 32-bit works on Linux right now, and our 64-bit Linux user base is such a small portion of our users, at the moment a 64-bit binary build of MyEclipse for Linux is a low priority for us.

Then please inform your executives that this systems architect is going to recommend that his shop, using 25 licenses roughly evenly split between Linux 64 bit and Windows, discontinue license renewals at the next renewal date.

I refuse to have our company pay for something that forces me to downgrade below my hardware’s capabilities. And I refuse to use a product that is going to require hours of handholding by my staff to get running correctly. I and multiple members of my staff have been unable to use MyEclipse for months now.

Your executives’ can rest easy that they just lost a 25 license renewal next year. And I’ll bet there will be a continued loss just like this with more of them simply never telling you why. Enjoy that in these difficult economic times.

Further, we will now actively seek out an alternative solution, either free OR commercial.

Good day.

[Doug]

dlramsey (above) has a point. 40 license shop here for about 4 years. Everything was fine on 64 bit Linux with MyEclipse 6.x. Then we upgraded some workstations to Eclipse 3.4.1 – no problem. My Eclipse 7.0 won’t install via Archived Update Site. Error is:

Cannot complete the request. See the details.
Unsatisfied dependency: [com.genuitec.myeclipse.enterprise.workbench.feature.group 7.0.0.zmyeclipse70020081206] requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.mozilla.xulrunner.gtk.linux.x86/[1.8.1.3-20070404,1.8.1.3-20070404]
Unsatisfied dependency: [com.genuitec.myeclipse.enterprise.workbench.feature.group 7.0.0.zmyeclipse70020081206] requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.core/[1.0.0.zmyeclipse70020081206,1.0.0.zmyeclipse70020081206]

Our production environment is 64 bit and therefore we develop and test in that environment. I will not downgrade our development JVMs to get around a problem in your installer (or whatever the issue is).

This must be resolved soon, or you will lose more subscriptions. I saw in another thread that it is perceived by your execs that only 1% of your customers are on 64 bit Linux. I don’t believe this. I don’t know how you are collecting that data (I didn’t specify when I ordered, or downloaded) but I suspect it is inaccurate. The move to 64 bit servers is trending faster than your execs think.

Another good day.

[Chris Mattmiller]

Is this only a problem with 64-bit Linux or is this also a problem with 64-bit Windows? From what I understand the next Windows 7 will be 64-bit ONLY.

[Scott Anderson]

It’s for 64-bit Linux only. We are working on getting this issue researched as fast as we can. It’s very high priority for us and we will get it fixed as fast as humanly possible. There are a few native bundles we have to figure out solutions for to make the 64-bit cut correctly, that’s what is taking time. Everyone here knows this issue is a big deal and is treating it as such, right now.

[Chris Mattmiller]

Thank you for starting to take it seriously and making this a high priority.

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